Congratulations on winning the election.
But remember. You are not just the leader of the Turkish Cypriots. You find yourself in a position that entails and includes much,much more than pleasing those that voted for you and those those that didn’t.
You are now one of the two leaders of Cyprus. The two leaders of Cyprus have only one duty all the way since 1960,to find a way for this country (not “our country”or “your country”sir,but this country) to become one again,for the same flag,not someone else’s flag,and the same people,our people,to cover it from coast to coast.
Because we are just one island sir,and the wall in the middle has barely left us place to stand. The olive tree in the middle will only keep growing and will take over.
So you understand,it is inevitable that that wall will come down and it is just a matter of how many people get pushed off the coast of the island,how many are trampled under our collective feet as we run back and forth like sheep trying to avoid the obvious. It is inevitable,and the faster we realise it,the less people will have to suffer needlessly.
Of these pairs of leaders that were doomed to take this people to the future many have failed and some of those did not even try. Makarios,Küçük,Kyprianou,Vasiliou,Clerides,Denktaş,Papadopoulos and Talat have failed. Some did not even try.
Are you going to be one of those leaders who failed,or one of those who did not even try? Remember,nothing stands in the way of the future. All you can do is postpone it. And you no longer have a responsibility only to the Turkish Cypriots,but also to the Greek Cypriots who also live in this country which you refuse to acknowledge as yours.
You’re one of the leaders of Cyprus. Deal with it and act accordingly. Unless you want history to have you down as another one who failed.
Or did not even try.
Saygılarımla
A fellow Cypriot
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Eroglu during the pre-election period would promise and threaten without cost;in fact all his life he was under the shadow of Dektash. He is already forced to deal with the political reality:he is now trying to say that he is line with Erdogan.
But we must have no illussions and we must be prepared for the next phase of struggle for reunification &peace;we need the movemtn to come out an show its’will for solution,irrispective,or bette especially now that a nationalist is elected.
So Mr Eroglu remember the struggle for reunification &peace will continue no matter what you say or do. The movemetn recognises no boundaries but respectes collective,communal and individual rights.
εγώ διαφορά δεν βλέπω…και ο ταλατ πιονακι της άγκυρας ήταν και αυτός,μόνη διαφορά η αναβάθμιση του ψευδοκράτους από τον ταλάτ ε αυτός μπορεί να μην το καταφέρει
What saddens me the most is that eventually the TC are going to do the same thing as we did in 2004. The tables have turned.
They elected a person that is a nationalist and doesn’t really want a solution,the same thing we did in 2004 by electing Tassos.
That person supports that he wants a solution and people shouldn’t believe what they hear. Tassos was saying the same thing.
Eventually,if and when we go to another referendum,Mr. Eroglou will sit crying in front of all the channels and ask the TC to vote NO to the plan that will sell Cyprus to the GC. Like Tassos did.
What next Mr. Omirou?
…and by the time they realise that Eroglou is not even trying and they elect somebody else,we (the G/C) will have sent to power some other nationalist who will refuce to negotiate. It’s a never ending circle.
But cycles can be broken and that’s why they happen,so that we can slowly learn for the next time we have to make a choice.
Besides,remember the old cliche about history repeating itself,first as tradegy and then as farce? Right now we might just be at the farce phase.:]
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Γράφει ανοησίες ο Απερίγραπτος. Υπάρχει τεράστια διαφορά μεταξύ Ταλάτ και Έρογλου και όσοι καμώνονται ότι δεν το καταλάβουν,καλύτερα να σιωπούν.
Φίλε Raftis,το να εκφράζει κάποιος την άποψη του δεν σημαίνει ότι σου δίδεται το δικαίωμα να λες ότι είναι ανοησίες,παρά με επιχειρήματα να αντικρούεις την άποψη του…πες μου ρε έξυπνε τόσα χρόνια ποιο το όφελος είχαμε από τον ταλάτ…
Μα το αστείο είναι ότι τζαμέ που το ρεφρέν του γνωστού χορού ήταν “πώς κάνετε έτσι,πρέπει να καταλάβουμε πως η Τουρκία ελέγχει τα πάντα”την Κυριακή,τη Δευτέρα άλλαξε σε “αρνητική εξέλιξη η εκλογή Έρογλου”.
Nai.. ntaxei.. to kupriako de luetai epeidi fteei o kakos papadopoulos i o kakos eroglou pou den theloun lusi..
Peite mas tote giati den vrethike afti i lusi sta teleftaia 2 hronia me tous kalous Christofia kai Talat.. (par’oles tis katastrofikes upohwriseis tou Christofia,pou eginan hwris kamia exousiodotisi apo tous E/K kai pou,kata oles tis dimoskopeiseis,den pernoun se dimopsifisma oute me sfaires).
Vgalame ton Christofia gia na “gwniasei”tin Tourkia,opws uposhotan,kai anti aftou fagame emeis to heirotero “gwniasma”meta apo to 74 pou mas etrehan apo pisw ta tanks.
As xupnisoume epitelous kai as stamatisoume na deihnoume ston kosmo oti to Kupriako einai provlima “epanaproseggisis”2 koinotitwn kai “psyhologiko”alla apokleistika provlima paranomis katohis –afto KANENAS pleon den to antilamvanetai ston exw kosmo,logw tis dikis mas ANIKANOTITAS na to metadidoume swsta kai tis emmonis mas se diakoinotikes proseggiseis kai se sumvivasmo me tin katohi.
@ Sceptic
Σίγουρα δεν φτάνει μόνο να έχουμε δύο ηγέτες έτοιμους για συμβιβασμό για να φτάσουμε και σε λύση. Αυτό φάνηκε καθαρά τα τελευταία δυο χρόνια. Υπάρχουν και πολλοί άλλοι παράγοντες π.χ. ο ρόλος της Τουρκίας,της ΕΕ,των ΗΠΑ,η δύναμη που έχουν οι απορριπτικοί σε κάθε κοινότητα,οι οικονομικές και κοινωνικές συνθήκες κτλ. Το ποιοι θα έιναι οι ηγέτες των δυο κοινοτήτων είναι απλά ένας παράγοντας από τους πολλούς.
Το Κυπριακό όμως σίγουρα δεν είναι και ποτέ δεν ήταν αποκλειστικά πρόβλημα παράνομης κατοχής. Το να το λέει ο πρόεδρος μας αυτό στον έξω κόσμο μπορεί να είναι και λογικό από άποψη τακτικής,αν φτάσουμεν όμως να το πιστεύουμε σαν λαός απλά κοροϊδεύουμε τον εαυτό μας. Είναι ακριβώς κάτι τέτοιες αντιλήψεις που φαίνεται να κάμνουν την επανένωση ανέφικτη.
To Kypriako den luetai epeidi i Tourkia apaitei tin pliri paradwsi mas –tin afairesi tou elehou tis Kypriakis Dimokratias apo emas,ena plirws tourkiko kratos sto vorra kai ena kratos sto noto pou na elehetai apo tin Tourkia meso tis T/K koinotitas. I pleiopsifia twn E/K den dehetai ta pio panw,opote i lusi den erhetai.
Gia na vrethei lusi prepei na metakinithei i Tourkia,kai gia na ginei afto prepei na arhisei epitelous na plirwnei kostos gia tin katohi. Gia na ginei afto,prepei na katalavei o planitis oti to provlima mas DEN einai diakoinotiko/ psyhologiko thema “epanaproseggisis”kai “epanenosis”2 geitonikwn koinotitwn (dld afto pou SIMERA katalavainei o kosmos kai pou oi pio polloi sto site afto proagoun).
Isws i epaneklogi Eroglou na einai mia kali efkairia gia emas na dwsoume mia prothesmia kai na poume oti meta apo afti,kai efoson i lusi DDO den ginetai pleon apodekti apo tous T/K,na apaitisoume tin epistrofi sti nomimotita,diladi to suntagma tou 1960 –kai parallila na anakoinwsoume tis kurwseis pou tha epivaloume stin Tourkia an den arhisei na sevetai ti nomimotita.
Kai na min lusei to provlima afto,toulahiston tha taraxei ta nera kai tha dwsei alli prooptiki. Outos i allws,oso oi dekaeties pernoun me dithen “diakoinwtikes”sunomilies,apla edrewnetai i katohi –prepei epitelous na paroume pio drastika metra kai na riskaroume ligo.
@Sceptic:
“…ena plirws tourkiko kratos sto vorra kai ena kratos sto noto pou na elehetai apo tin Tourkia meso tis T/K koinotitas.”
Ένας Τουρκοκύπριος Σκέπτικ θα έλεγε:”ένα πλήρως ελληνικό κράτος στο νότο και ένα κράτος στο βορρά που θα ελέγχεται μέσω της Ε/Κ κοινότητας.”
Πού βλέπεις την διαφορά;Γιατί είσαι τόσο σίγουρος ότι η πρώτη εκδοχή είναι η σωστή;Θεωρείς την Ε/Κ κοινότητα ανίκανη να κάνει το δεύτερο;
@Pavlos
I asafeia kai oi grizes zwnes pou anaggastika tha periehontai se ena shedio lusis analogo me to Annan (to mono pou dehetai simera i Tourkia) PANTA tha erminevontai apo ton ishuro,diladi tin Tourkia.
Oti kai na leei to shedio,an apwlesoume ton eleho tis Kupriakis Dimokratias,tha einai polu efkolo gia tin Tourkia na tourkopoiisei plirws to Vorra (nomima omws),na ehei mia terastia pleiopsifia Tourkwn/ T/K ekei kai na “kanei”to “perivallon”tetoio wste kanenas E/K na min thelei/ mporei na paei na katoikisei ekei. Poios tha mporei na zisei mazi me grizous lukous otan i monadiki tou prostasia tha einai apo tin T/k (Tourkiki) astunomia? (hwris “”). I nomizeis tha mporei i E/K i estw “omospondiaki”astunomia na se prostatepsei an sunehws se enohloun oi Lukoi?
Apo tin alli,emeis katholou den tha mporoume na enohlisoume tous Tourkous pou tha erthoun sto noto,afou an kanoume to paramikro tha xeroume oti i Tourkia tha arhisei pali ta idia.. see Tulliria ktl.. To apotelesma tha einai na ehoume to 1/3 tou plithismou tou Notou NOMIMA Tourkous (per Annan) kai pithanotata PLEIOPSIFIA mousoulmanwn an valeis kai tous paranomous tourkous pou tha erthoun sun Kourdous,Syrous ktl pou irthan kai tha erhontai. Kai ena apokleistika Tourkiko Vorra..
Tha dimiourgithoun terastia Tourkika/ mousoulmanika geto sto Noto,tha allaxei o tropos zois mas kai sto telos,hwris diko mas anagnwrismeno kratos tha eimaste mia apli koinotita plirws sto eleos tis Tourkias.
@Sceptic
Είπες:
“.. ena plirws tourkiko kratos sto vorra kai ena kratos sto noto pou na elehetai apo tin Tourkia meso tis T/K koinotitas”
Αυτό που περιγράφεις είναι η σημερινή κατάσταση. Τώρα έχουμε ένα πλήρως τουρκικό κράτος στο Βορρα κι ένα (επίσημα) δικοινοτικό κράτος στο Nότο,στο οποίο η Τουρκία διατηρεί επεμβατικά διακιώματα. Αν κάνουμε αυτό που προτείνεις,δηλ. να ζητήσουμε επαναφορά στη νομιμότητα του 1960,απλά αυτή η κατάσταση θα παραταθεί για πολλά χρόνια ακόμα (αφού η Τουρκία αποκλείεται να το δεχτεί,όποια πίεση και να της βάλεις,κι επιπλέον θα μπορεί να κατηγορεί την ε/κ πλευρά ότι αυτή είναι που δε θέλει συμβιβασμό). Με μια ενδεχόμενη λύση τίποτε δεν θα γίνει χειρότερο σ’αυτόν τον τομέα.
Το πρόβλημα μας είναι και διακοινοτικό,είτε το θέλουμε είτε όχι. Ότι κι αν πούμε στους ξένους,δεν μπορούμε να το αλλάξουμε αυτό. Δεν είναι όλοι οι ξένοι παράγοντες βλάκες,για να μας περιμένουν εμάς να τους εξηγήσουμε τι συμβαίνει στην Κύπρο και να μας πιστέψουν αυτόματα.
Όσο γι’αυτά που λες σαν απάντηση στον Παύλο:όποιου είδους λύση ή μη λύση μας έρθει,μπορούμε να σκεφτούμε πολλές τέτοιες κινδυνολογίες. Φυσικά όλα είναι πιθανά. Για να δουλέψει η οποιαδήποτε λύση,ακόμα και η πιο ιδανική,προϋποθέτει έτσι κι αλλιώς την καλή θέληση όλων των πλευρών,άρα και της Τουρκίας. Ή στην καλύτερη περίπτωση την απεξάρτηση των λαών από τις ελίτ τους,ώστε αυτά τα γεωστρατηγικά συμφέροντα να μην παίζουν πια ρόλο.
Ahmet writes:
Dear Greek Cypriot friends,
If you want to have a bi-lingual discussion,please return to English,so that we,the Turkish speaking participants,could follow the line of thought and write our comments.
For the time being,I can only say that the solution will not come by itself. Even if the two leaders happen to agree or they are forced by the “Big Brother”to agree,we have to try hard for its democratic implementation and prepare the people for that.Do not forget that even the AKEL started to enlighten the G/Cs about federalism more than 30 years after the federal principle was agreed upon!
As I wrote before,if Eroglu will be the one,who will sign the agreement,it will be easier to implement it,since Talat and Co. have been ready all the way!
“Τώρα έχουμε ένα πλήρως τουρκικό κράτος στο Βορρα κι ένα (επίσημα) δικοινοτικό κράτος στο Nότο”
Diafwnw. Afto tha ginei MONO an upograpsoume emeis tin apwleia elehou tis K.D.,me ta poly praktika,logika kai tragika sunepakoloutha pou perigrapsa pio panw. Akoma kai ena nipio mporei na provlepsei oti i Tourkia tha praxei ta pio panw kai oti i upografi enos shediou san to Annan tha simainei pliri tourkopoiisi tou vorra,kai mia provlimatiki katastasi sto noto me to miso pluthismo na einai tourkikos/ mousoulmanikos –effectively another “disaster waiting to happen”.
Afto pou ehoume TWRA einai ena kratos melos twn H.E. kai tis E.E. to opoio apo to 1963 anagnwristike ws nomima dioikoumeno apo to 82% tou nomimou pluthismou tou,kai tou opoiou to ena trito katehetai paranoma.
Re your other point (in English,for the benefit of our T/C compatriots):
We have negotiated for a BBF in good faith for 35 years,despite BBF in itself being a major concession for an 82% majority. The Turkish side refuses to accept any solution that respects the fundamental human rights of GCs and demands greatly unreasonable further concessions from us that make an agreed solution impossible.
The only side that is gaining from the endless so called “bicommunal”talks is Turkey,which WE transformed,through OUR behaviour,from an invader and military occupying power into a constructive third party –WE continue to kiss its butt and allow it to progress in the EU while it continues to hold and COLONISE our occupied area and sell off our houses to cheapskate Brits.
For a reasonable observer,a victim of rape does not behave in such a “friendly”way towards its rapist,therefore it is reasonable for them to assume there was never any rape in the first place.
RoC,being the legal government of all of Cyprus,should put forward a reasonable BBF with political equality,that respects the human rights of all Cypriots and grants an area to TCs that is in line with their 18% population and 12% of property ownership in 1974.
It should also provide a reasonable timescale for them to accept it and state that at the end of this period,and after 35 years of failed negotiations,it will DEMAND a return to LEGALITY (i.e. 1960 constitution) by all involved –and use all legal means to end the illegal occupation by Turkey.
Inter-alia,fully block the EU process for Turkey,close the Green line to stop supporting the “TRNC”criminal gang,cancel the passports of RoC citizens supporting this gang through residing in occupied areas,paying taxes to its enemies etc,sue Turkey at all international courts,build the RoC defence and invite the EU military as well as countries such as France and Germany to take up permanent military bases in Cyprus.
I am not saying this will solve the problem immediately,but it will be causing LESS damage to us than the current situation and it will be giving the correct messages to the world. Compare where the continuation of the current situation is taking us with where the above will take us –and choose!
@Sceptic:
“cancel the passports of RoC citizens supporting this gang through residing in occupied areas”
Are you serious!!!!!!!!??????????
Under what moral or written law can a state cancel any of its citizens’passports?
Since when are the Turkish-Cypriots the enemy?
Did they ever have a choice?
Are you planning to take T/Cs to courts for residing in the north? (And how about the G/Cs of Rizokarpaso?)
Is that going to help reconcile the two communities? Build a bright future?
Note that not a single G/C was ever brought to justice for the coup or any other crimes against the RoC;how dare you incriminate a whole section of the population?
For God’s sake,the fight should never be between G/Cs and T/Cs but CYPRIOTS against Turkey or Greece or any other fuckface who brought harm to us.
If citizens of ANY country (X) co-operated with an invader that came to country X,killed thousands of its citizens,raped etc,then occupied 37% of its area,then those people would be going to court for high treason –especially if they served in the enemy’s armed forces and were trained to kill country X’s soldiers,paid tax with which arms are bought for use against country X,illegally used or sold off property belonging to country X’s citizens etc.
Instead of the above,we have treated TCs like brothers,allowed them to come here and work,hence indirectly financing our enemy,offered them EU passports (held even by Denktash’s family),free healthcare (which I am NOT entitled to despite paying several tens of thousands of tax each year to the RoC and having lost a lot of property),and preferential treatment in all areas (ranging from not paying tax in the RoC to transport rules etc).
What did we get in return from them? Where is the “joint revolution against Turkey”that Christofias naively expected? Why are TCs demanding that we surrender our human rights to them and be treated like third class citizens? Why are they demanding that we legalise the theft our properties by them? Why is an 18% population that owns 12% of land demanding an area of 30% of land and 55% coastline –at our expense??
We have stupidly played Turkey’s game for far too long and look where it got us! It’s time to start calling the occupation occupation,the enemy enemy –and start treating it,and those that support it,as such.
“Note that not a single G/C was ever brought to justice for the coup or any other crimes against the RoC;”
This should have been done and should still be done. Those who prevented this from happening or neglected to take action all this time should also face justice for their actions or ommissions.
@Sceptic:
“If citizens of ANY country (X) co-operated with an invader that came to country X,killed thousands of its citizens,raped etc,then occupied 37% of its area,then those people would be going to court for high treason – especially if they served in the enemy’s armed forces and were trained to kill country X’s soldiers,paid tax with which arms are bought for use against country X,illegally used or sold off property belonging to country X’s citizens etc.”
Projecting the crimes of a few,or even many,to a whole group acording to language or religion has a name:RACISM.
Have you ever spoken to any Turkish-Cypriot? Did he/she strike you as a conspirator? Any of those who were displaced,lost a loved one? Any of those who were on the streets in 2003?
@Sceptic
I’ll continue in english too,so that everybody can follow.
To first point:The northern part is already now under turkish control,and it will become more and more turkish every day in the event of a non-solution. Legal or illegal doesn’t matter much in this respect. An Anan-like plan can’t bring ant more turkification. If anything,is going to change to the better,since the North won’t be under direct turkish control or exclusively dependent on Turkey anymore.
Also in the southern part a BBF could change things to the better,since Turkey could lose its intervention rights (which she still has today) at least in that part. The “danger”that half the population will be turkish/muslim will be the same as it is today through immigration. And already now TCs can come to the southern part anyway whenever they want.
To the next point:
First,claiming that Kyprianou and Tassos negotiated for a BBF in good faith seems like a joke to me. Second,I don’t see any fundamental human rights that Turkey won’t accept (I don’t think the rights of staying or property can be considered as such,can they?).
As for your opinion,that WE transformed Turkey from an invader to a constructive third party,just because we accept negotiations,I think you clearly overestimate the capabilities of our government. It’s not only us who decide how the Cyprus problem is perceived internationally. If our government didn’t accept bicommunal talks,nothing would be better. Turkey would simply have it much more easier to put on our side the blame for the non-solution,and continue carrying out its policy. Any solution that comes will necessarily need the approval of the majority of TCs,and the only way to achieve this is with bicommunal talks.
The only thing that your proposals of “legal means”would bring,is that they would make it much easier for the partition to become permanent. And this without Turkey needing to make any concessions in territory or anything,as she will easily put the blame on GCs. The message sent to the world will be simply that GCs want partition too. It will also leave to TCs no other choice as becoming even more dependent on Turkey. So it will actually cause much more damage than the current situation.
@ the Sceptic:
I think Pavlos responded to your comments very well. Where do you get the right to cancel my rights as a citizen of this RoC? I can be a member of the smaller community,but do not forget that I,too,suffer under the ongoing Turkish occupation. Maybe the bigger community has a bigger responsibility in not propagating the evils of the Turkish colonization of our island. What do you think of this issiue? The people like you,perhaps,think that I was wrong to put a complaint against Turkey at the ECHR in Stassbourg,which resulted with the opening of barricades between the occupied north and the free south in April 2003. Do you prefer to stop contacts between the two sides and among the Cypriots on their own country for the sake of LESS damage to your position? Why don’t you try to clean your house first and then try to see the criminal gangs in the TRNC? Unless you get rid of racist education and unless you have a democratic police,do you think that even the conditions of “paradise” will be able to nourish a “solution”?
You should have known by now that the strategic importance of our island in the Eastern Mediterranean for the English and Americans was the main reason of our sufferings. Also the nationalist aspirations of the both communities (enosis and taksim) were also provoked by the foreigners. Still you dare to propose to have new military bases on our small island? Have you forgot that even the AKEL thought that entering the EU could help us to get rid of the Turkish Army? What did the EU say during the days of Annan Plan? Why did the EU not support the so-called European Democratic Principles to be valid also in this part of the EU?
@Afroastiatis
I agree with your comments. As long as the occupation and non-solution continues,the T/Cs will become more dependent on Turkey and their number will decrease as more settlers arrive to the occupied North. The previous governments of the RoC should have acted more in order to show the world and the EU that Turkey intended the continuation of the partition and the colonization of the occupied part of our country. The T/C population and the T/C ownership of property were not discussed properly with the fear of partition aims of the Turkish side. Why does the RoC not allow the T/Cs to sell or exchange through a commission of the RoC their properties with those G/Cs willing to do so? Why did the recent G/C governments not prepare an administrative map together with a democratic and federal new constitution as a draft to be discussed,so that we,the T/Cs could see what kind of rights we can enjoy under the new circumstances? Tassos wanted to have more than 90 amendments to the Annan Plan and Dimitri wanted one month more to convince his people for a federal solution and to get a guarantee of its implementation? Now that Talat is gone and Eroglu has come,should we go back to the zero point? Why the ordinary people turned into the flock of the political leaders? Why even the communists of this country are so conservative that they do not dare to bring any change to the existing status quo? My questions continue,but that will be enough to discuss with the anti-racist compatriots for the moment.
@Pavlos
You are avoiding to deal with the main points in my note –as for the part that you did comment on,you are putting words in my mouth. I did not “project”anything,I referred to citizens of a country that co-operated with its enemies in very SPECIFIC ways (regardless of ethnicity) –it’s easy to discard arguments as “racism”,harder to find answers. In the meantime,enjoy listening to the elected leader of your TC friends stating that the “TRNC”flag will NEVER be removed from Pentadaktylos..
@Ahmed
What I proposed (as a whole) is the only way in which the world will start understanding that in Cyprus there is occupation and colonisation,which,based on what you are saying,you agree with.
You may be an exception to the rule,given that you sued Turkey. My point is that those TCs who,based on proper evidence,have supported and support the violent invader and occupier against their country of citizenship should be brought to justice and have a fair trial for their actions. Same applies to GCs for any crimes against the RoC (e.g. coup against Makarios).
The application review process for passports should include a review of the criminal record of each applicant and outstanding issues (the same applies in all countries). It is inconceivable that the RoC should be issuing a passport to say a soldier serving in the Turkish/ TC army,being trained to kill RoC citizens and maintain the occupation of 37% of the RoC,without first this applicant facing justice in the RoC for this criminal action (under the constitution and laws of the RoC –not “subjective”).
Re criminal gangs:I said that the “TRNC”IS the criminal gang.
Re military bases:We are far too small and weak to deal with Turkey,which results in continuous landlsliding in our negotiating position,hence preventing a solution. We need to reduce the weight of this factor,through reducing the threat of another Turkish “peace operation”. EU entry helped to an extent but this is not enough. If you are small,you need to team up with a bigger power,so that you can receive some protection and bring about some balance. Britain has proven her interests are with Turkey,so no good. France/ Germany,Russia and China may be able to help us in this respect. We need to pursue this immediately,together with building a defence capability commensurate with the threat that we face.
The irony is that an objective observer would consider all of the above as reasonable in a case of invasion and occupation –however,the 35 years of so called inter-communal talks of the incapable RoC’s leaders,that have served ONLY to “cement”and legitimise the occupation,have ensured that such views now seem “extreme”or even “racist”(which I reject).
@ the Scepsis
We agree on the point that the world has forgot,since there is no bloodshed (!),that Cyprus has been since 1974 under the occupation of a NATO (Turkish) Army and has been subject to colonization,contrary to the Geneva Convention 1949. This is something that the RoC does not propagate properly or has not applied to the International Court of Justice.
Turkey adopted the policy of “to be one step forwards” by accepting the Annan Plan and continue to be seen as the party,which is really for a solution. On the other hand,Turkey defended the continuation of the status quo,e.g. partition of the island,by forcing the G/C side to accept a two-states formula under the guise of federal solution. Why does the RoC not declare to the world that Turkish side is not for a real federal solution.
I am afraid that the RoC is not whole-heartedly accepting a federal solution either,keeping in mind always a unitary model. Even Christophias said that they accepted the federal solution as a bitter compromise in order to get rid of the Turkish army! Well,as an ex-communist,he is not aware that the nationalities problem in Cyprus could only be solved (even under socialism) with a federal structure. On the other hand,I am well aware that the Turkish side has been after a solution,which will secure a separate state in the North,a state that will behave on her own,not under the control of a common federal umbrella state. That’s why there is no end to the negotiations between the two leaders. When there is no arbitrator to decide who is supporting really what,then there is no end,only frustration. The estrangement of the T/Cs to the RoC since 1963 and the adoption of the illegal TRNC even by the so-called progressives of the CTP are other negative factors in the occupied areas. What else the CTP had a very corrupted performance during its period of power. The anti-occupation forces in the T/C community have shrinked down to a few thousands. Above all and the most important point is that there is no common political organization for all the Cypriots with a common vision,which I fought for.
I agree with you that Cyprus is a small island. What else there is no socialist and non-aligned movements anymore to support our case,but we should not be looking for a “big brother”,to whom we can offer our territories for a military base,so that we should be protected against the foreign interventions. We have to stick to the internationally accepted principles of the international law and develop an active policy for their full implementation. We need new visions and young blood in our political lives in order to get out of this dilemma.
Unfortunately,principles etc have little weight in today’s world..
I believe that,although most GCs say their ideal solution is a unitary state,they imagine this is as state controlled by GCs and not a state where TCs are equal partners.
My personal view is that the ONLY solution that can be accepted by both sides is one that applies the principle of “land for sovereignty”. Effectively 2 near-sovereign states joined at the top with the absolute minimum structure needed for a single personality within the UN and EU,plus effective immigration control. Also,Turkey to guarantee (only) TC state,EU/ UN Ch7 for the GC state. In return,area and coastline of TC state is limited to 20-23% (which would also solve the property issue). Add to this proper implementation guarantees (land goes to UN before recognition of new state of affairs) and you have a solution that will pass referenda in both sides.
Anything else is doomed to fail.
@the Sceptic
I shall continue to defend the principles of international law and of human rights for my own country and for the whole world,even if the big powers do not respect them at the moment.
I shall not approve the partition of my country under any disguise.
It depends on how you define “partition under any disguise”.. for example,would the Annan plan qualify as such,or do you agree with most on this forum that this was a “re-unification”plan?